The following is an email exchange about great stem cell therapy questions and the answers
Have any patients of DBC stem cell therapy worsened in their health (developed cancer, other illness, died, etc) after receiving stem cells? Even if only one person. Can you share some details from the very worst experience of all your patients? I only ask because practically all the reviews I’ve been able to find of your clinic are positive.
– We have never had a patient develop cancer or other illnesses from treatment. A few patients have experienced a mild fever the day after a stem cell IV treatment and it is easily treated with tylenol. It happened to me on my first IV of 300 million stem cells. The intrathecal treatment has caused pretty severe headaches in 7 patients. This is because of extra fluid in the cerebral spinal fluid area. It was treated with tramacet and those patients are all doing great now. 2 of them were my mother and my step dad. These are normal issues with these types of procedures and easily dealt with. We have had 5 patients experience swelling in their knees after our stem cell knee treatment. We used to use 2ml of PRP plus 2ml of stem cells and it was just too much fluid for these patients as the knee is complex and doesn’t let fluid drain out very easy. We remedied this by no longer adding the PRP and have not had any issues since. Knees are our most common treatment so this is an extremely small number of patients that had these issues. That is it for any issues, nothing major.
Have there been any research papers published based on patients treated at your clinic, or published studies that were undertaken at your clinic? Practically everything I know about Dream Body Clinic comes from information provided by Dream Body Clinic, so some peer review would go a long way in confirming my positive impressions.
– We have not published any studies. We plan to start some studies either later this year or next year as we are now teamed up with the research division at the university of Guadalajara. We have been primarily focused on getting the word out about stem cells over the past 6 years. Now we are in the process of remodeling a building that we recently acquired and will be moving the clinic to. That will give us enough space to hire more staff to help with research. We will also be building our own lab there with the help of the U of GDL lab team and conducting research is one of the requirements to maintain a lab here. We have thousands of past patients that are very happy with us and many of those are doctors from the US and Canada.
Does the cultivation process used to multiply stem cells pose any risks once the cloned cells have been transplanted? Do they continue to multiply inside the receiving body? I just want to understand better why this is prohibited in the U.S. and Canada.
– There is no risk to using cultivated stem cells. There are over 30,000 studies on Mesenchymal stem cells (MSCs) on Pub med and over 100,000 worldwide on google scholar. They do not continue to multiply inside the body. We know Dr. Arnold Caplan the man that named MSCs and he told me at a conference 3 years ago that he meets with the FDA every so often and they won’t allow MSC’s because they want more research. The head of the FDA is always the ex CEO of Pfizer and they don’t want a treatment that would cut into their drug profits. The orthopedic surgeons have a very large lobby in D.C. and they don’t want MSCs available either as they like to cut. My opinion is that the main reason the USA, Canada, UK and EU are not using expanded MSCs is because of big pharma. They cannot patent MSCs as they are naturally occuring and no one is going to spend the billion dollars or so to get MSCs approved and not own the rights.
How long do the stem cells stay alive in the body, or do they become a permanent new part of it and turn us into a chimera? I’ve found some interesting articles discussing chimerism as a problem that sometimes follows umbilical MSC stem cell transplants, but they were too technical for me to understand the full significance of.
– MSCs can stay in your system for 8 months to a year. No worries about turning into a chimera as they do not differentiate. This means they don’t turn into any other type of cell. They work via what’s called the paracrine effect. It is the exosomes, cytokines, chemokines and trophic factors they release that do all the work. Think of the MSCs as the managers on the construction site. They are relaying the messages to the repair cells and immune system to heal the right way. They start by removing scar tissue and then guide the rebuilding of the tissue to it’s normal shape. This is how we healed as kids, but when we hit bone maturity we lose 90% of our capillaries. Well it turns out that MSCs live on the capillaries and are called pericytes. They release from the capillary and are then called MSCs. They seek out inflammation and guide the healing. So as adults we are at least 90% deficient. So white blood cells rush to inflammation first and can only heal via fibrosis (scar tissue). Your natural healing cells can’t get past the fibrosis and that is why old injuries tend to not fully heal. Now back to the MSCs and chimera question. After 8 to 12 months the MSCs do differentiate, but that differentiated cell contains Human leukocyte antigen (HLA). The MSC does not have HLA but when it differentiates it does and your immune system recognizes it as not your own and flushes it out of your system. Your immune system is doing this to billions or trillions of cells a day so it is no big deal and you don’t end up with any foreign cells living in your body.
Is it kind of like letting someone else’s DNA take over certain functions in your body? If so, can our own DNA be affected by the stem cells’ DNA? For instance, is there any danger in fathering children following stem cell therapy?
– This goes back to the question above. The MSCs don’t have HLA so there is no DNA transfer and they don’t turn into other types of cells and live in your body. So no DNA transfer.
Is there any risk of the transplanted cells shutting down or downregulating the body’s own MSC cells or other aspects of gene expression and replacing them with its own (or anything similar to that)? Can you for instance inherit new allergies or other vulnerabilities from your stem cell donor?
– Your body doesn’t produce MSC’s so there is no risk of down regulation. You cannot inherit anything from the MSCs as they lack HLA and don’t differentiate.
Maybe a silly question, but do you still feel like yourself after the treatment? One of the biggest things holding me back is how creepy and vampiric it all seems. Though if it can improve my life to such an incredible degree and nobody’s getting hurt, what could possibly be wrong with it?
– You feel the same. Just like you would feel the same after a blood transfusion and a blood transfusion is much more risky as you must match blood type. There is no matching needed with MSCs. Just remember that most of you are bacteria and foreign cells. We are all more of something else than just ourselves. We could not live without all the bacteria and foreign cells that naturally make up our body.
Have there been any reactions to receiving stem cells worse than a headache?
– See question one answers.
Do higher amounts of stem cells always equal better results, or is there a “sweet spot” for patients with no apparent degenerative illnesses who simply want to improve their lifestyle or take preventative measures? Do higher amounts pose higher risk?
– Higher amounts generally give better results, but like anything you hit diminishing returns. For the IV treatments we recommend 1.4 million per pound of body weight (3 million per kilogram). A bit higher is fine, but those numbers seem to be the sweet spot after years of testing. For joints we find that 25 million to 50 million is best and depends on how much space there is at the joint. For intrathecal we found that 50 million is the sweet spot. We have had patients do 100 million and 150 million, but we bottle 25 million per ml so 100 million is 4ml and 150 million is 6ml. 4ml or higher pretty much guarantees a migraine like headache that lasts 1 to 2 days. There have also been studies done into dosing that confirm these same range of cells.
Is MSC stem cell compatibility universal, i.e. will it matter that I have the rarest blood type, AB-?
MSCs are universally compatible because they lack HLA. Blood type has no bearing on them as they have nothing to do with blood.
Is it possible to get reduced doses of certain available treatments if you are interested in combining a few, like for instance a 50 million cell IV and/or a 25 million cell intrathecal? If so, what would the cost difference be like for these amounts? I’d be interested in possibly getting these reduced doses together with the 50 million cell P-shot and the 20 million cell hair treatment (along with the HGH fly and buy). My issue is mostly keeping the total cost down, but also lingering paranoia about receiving too many stem cells.
– We almost always customize treatment for patients. The prices and doses on the site are just to show patients the most common treatment protocols and prices. I hate to visit medical websites and they never have prices. We pride ourselves on being completely transparent and keep prices as low as possible to help as many people as possible. A 50 million Intrathecal treatment is $3,000 usd. A 25 million intrathecal treatment would be $2,000 usd. For the hair or facial treatment we don’t change the amount of cells. We have all the treatments dialed in on dose so too many cells is not an issue.
When you do the hair treatment, do you inject the stem cells into the scalp with a syringe or some sort of derma-needling device with a built-in syringe? I recently watched a video from a different clinic where they stressed the importance of doing the injections on a sideways angle (and not directly into the scalp at a perpendicular angle) in order to get it into the right layer. The injections were also spaced 1 cm apart in the area of the scalp being treated. Is this how you also do it or do you follow a different protocol?
– The hair treatment is great if you are just starting to lose hair. It will keep you from losing more hair, but it usually won’t fill back in all of the lost hair. Send me a photo of your hair and I can give you a straight up assessment of whether it is a treatment worth doing or not. We inject with a 30 guage syringe first and then micro needle it in with a dermal roller.
Have any patients reported improvements with vitiligo patches after receiving stem cells? I started getting vitiligo spots on my dick a few years ago and was hoping the P-shot might help with bringing the melanocytes back to life in those areas (among other things).
– We have seen the stem cell IV treatment help vitiligo in patients. It is not that common of an issue for us to treat.
In what timeframe are you currently booking treatments? What dates are available right now and how soon?
– We need at least 3 weeks notice right now to get you on the calendar. The next step is to fill out our intake form and then do a consultation. After that you need to set up flights and a hotel then fill out our booking form and we will schedule you in. Medical History Form – https://dreambody.clinic/index.php/intake-form
Booking Form – https://ntegzhux.paperform.co/
And about HGH. Do you happen to know if people who’ve experienced allergic reactions to peptides such as TB500, BPC-157, Ipamorelin, and/or CJC-1295 are prone to having similar reactions with HGH? It’s only happened to me a few times, the worst of which was with TB500 (intense itching, rash and welts at injection sites and other random parts of my body, etc). Do you do an allergy test with the patient before putting them on HGH?
– We have not had any allergic reactions to HGH in the 9 years we have offered it. My take on peptides – Recover Like Wolverine with Peptides or Stem Cells – YouTube
Hope that all helps. Call us at 833-445-9089 with any questions.
